Said Rabha: The appointed time for the Messiah cannot be more revealed than in this passage, as it reads [Ez. xxxvi. 8]: “But ye, O mountains of Israel, ye shall send forth your boughs, and your fruits shall ye bear for my people Israel.” R. Elazar said also from [Zech. viii. 10]: “For before those days, there was no reward for man, nor any reward for beast; and for him that went out or came in there was no peace, because of the oppressor.” What do the last words in this passage mean? Said Rabh: Also the scholars, of whom it reads [Ps. cix. 165]: “Abundant peace have they who love thy law,” will also have no peace from the oppressor. Samuel, however, said: The cited verse means the Messiah will not come until high prices will be for all articles of life. R. Hanina said: The son of David will not come unless even a piece of fish will be sought for a sick one and it will not be found, as it reads [Ez. xxxii. 14]: “Then will I make clear their waters, and cause their rivers to flow like oil.” And it reads also [ibid. xxix. 21]: “On that day will I cause to grow a horn for the house of Israel, and unto thee will I open the mouth in the midst of them. 1 R. Hana b. Hanina said: Ben David will not appear unless every office of the government, even the least one will be removed from the children of Israel, as it reads [Isa. xviii. 5]: “He will both cut off the tendrils with pruning-knives, and the sprigs will he remove and cut down.” And thereafter it reads [ibid. 7]: “At that time shall be brought as a present unto the Lord of hosts a people pulled and torn.” And Zera, in the name of R. Hanina, said: Ben David will not come until the haughty men of Israel will cease to be, as it reads [Zeph. iii. 11]: “For then will I remove out of the midst of thee, those that rejoice in thy pride, and thou shall never more be haughty again on my holy mount.” And thereafter it reads [12]: “I will leave remaining in the midst of thee an humble and poor people, and they shall trust in the name of the Lord.” R. Simlai said, in the name of R. Elazar b. Simeon: Ben David will not come unless there will cease to be judges and officers of Israel, as it reads [Isa. i. 25 and 26]: “And I will turn my hand against thee, and I purge away as with lye thy dross, and remove all thy tin. And I will restore thy judges as at first, and thy counsellors as at the beginning,” etc. Said Ula: Jerusalem will not be redeemed but by charity, as it reads [Isa. i. 27]: “Zion shall be redeemed through justice, and her converts through zdaka” (the meaning of which is both righteousness and charity). Said R. Papa: When insolence shall cease to be in Israel, the magus of the Persians who causes much trouble will also cease to be, as it reads [ibid., ibid. 25]: “And purge away as with lye thy dross, and remove all thy tin.” When judges of Israel will cease to be, the brutal executions of the Persian court-servants will be abolished, as it reads [Zeph. iii. 15]: “The Lord hath removed mishophtakha (literally “the judges from thee”), he hath cleared away thy enemy.” R. Johanan said: When you see that wisdom decreases continually from a generation, you may hope for the Messiah, as it reads [II Sam. xxii. 28]: “And the afflicted people thou wilt save.” And he said again: If you see chastisements and evils are increasing in a generation like the waters of the rivers, await the Messiah, as [Isa. lix. 19]: “For there shall come distress like a stream.” And the next verse reads: “But unto Zion shall come the redeemer.” He said again: Ben David will appear either in a generation in which all will be upright or in one in which all shall be wicked. “All upright,” from [ibid. ix. 21]: “And thy people–they all will be righteous, for ever shall they possess the land.” And “all wicked,” from [ibid. lix. 16]: “And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor.” And [ibid. xlviii. ii]: For my own sake, for my own sake, will I do it.” R. Alexandri said: Jehoshua b. Levi propounded a contradiction: It reads [ibid. ix. 22]: “I the Lord will hasten it in its time.” “Hasten” and “in its time” contradict each other. And the answer was that if they will be worthy I will hasten it, and if not, they must wait till the right time will come. The same said again that the same authority propounded another contradiction from [Dan. vii. 13]: “Behold with the clouds of heaven came one like a son of man . . . ” [Zech. ix. 9]: “Lowly and riding upon an ass.” And the answer was, if they will be worthy he will come with the clouds of heaven, and if not, he. will come upon an ass.The king Sabur said to Samuel: You say that your Messiah will come upon an ass, let me send him the best horse of my stable. And he answered him: Do you then possess a horse of a hundred colors as the ass of the Messiah? (a joke to a joke). R. Jehoshua b. Levi met Elijah standing at the gate of the cave of R. Simeon b. Jochai and asked him if he will have a share in the world to come. And he answered: If it will be the will of this Lord. Said R. Jehoshua: Two persons have I seen and the voice of the third have I heard. 1 I questioned him further when the Messiah will appear. And he answered: Go and ask him himself. “But where is he to be found?” “At the gate of Rome, among poor people inflicted with wounds.” “And how can I recognize him?” All the inflicted poor open the bandages of all their wounds, fix all of them and then dress them. And he opens one bandage, fixes the wound and dresses it, and then goes on to the next one, for the reason that perhaps he will be cold and there will be a delay till all the wounds are dressed. R. Jehoshua went to him, and when he met him he said: Peace be to thee, my master and teacher. And he answered: Peace be with thee, son of Levai. And to Jehoshua’s question: When will the master appear?he answered: This day. When Jehoshua met Elijah again, the latter questioned him as to what the Messiah said to him. And he said: Peace be with thee, son of Levai. Said Elijah: He assured you of a share for thyself and for thy father in the world to come. Rejoined Jehoshua: He made a fool of me by saying that he will come this day. And Elijah answered: The expression “this day” means as in [Ps. xcv.] “Yea this day, if you will hearken to his voice.” The disciples of R. Jose b. Kisma questioned him when the son of David will appear. And he answered: I am afraid you will request from me a sign. And they assured him that they would not. He then said to them: When this gate will fall, be rebuilt and fall again, be rebuilt again and fall again. And before it will be rebuilt for the third time the Messiah will appear. The disciples then said: Our master, give us a sign. “Have you not promised that you will not ask of me for any sign?” They answered: Nevertheless we would like to have it. And he said: If it is as I say, the spring of the cave of Paneas shall be converted into blood. And so it happened. While dying he said to his disciples: Put my coffin very deep into the earth, for there will not be one tree in Babylon to which a horse of the Persians will not be tied. And there will not remain one coffin in the land of Israel from which the horses of the Modoites will not eat straw.
RODKINSON, MICHAEL. THE BABYLONIAN TALMUD, ALL 20 VOLUMES (ILLUSTRATED) (p. 3648). Amity EBooks. Kindle Edition.
R. Johanan said: When you see that wisdom decreases continually from a generation, you may hope for the Messiah, as it reads [II Sam. xxii. 28]: “And the afflicted people thou wilt save.” — MAYBE THIS IS THE CONSEQUENCE OF ALL THE SEGERS IN THE EDUCATION SYSTEM??? WHAT GENERATIONS WILL COME OUT OF THIS?
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